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mccorquodale
Jan 19 2010
secret religious codes on weapons

According to this article, weapons provided to the US military by a Michigan based company have apparent serial numbers on them containing expressions like "JN8:12" and "2COR4:6" to refer to Bible passages in John and Second Corinthians respectively. Of course, it is legal for the company to put these on whatever they make, but not legal for the government to purchase them or give them to soldiers. And, legal or not, it is not good PR to do this when we're really trying to make it clear that our military is not involved involved in a modern Crusade.

On the other hand, as a representative of the company points out, the complaints about this are coming from groups that aren't even Christian...so we know they can't possibly be right.

n-atheist
Jan 19 2010
Re: secret religious codes on weapons

You've got to love their "excuses".

"We've always done it this way." As if being a shoplifter for years and getting away with it means that you don't get in trouble when you're finally caught.

and

"The groups complaining are not Christian." As if Christians in America are free to do anything they want to non-Christians because no law has been broken unless a Christian complains about it.

To me it is so obvious. Could the US Army require all of its soldiers to wear shirts with Bible quotes on the back and a big cross on the front? No, obviously not. For one thing, there are non-Christian soldiers and they have freedom of religion, too. Then, for the same reasons (even though it is clearly on a smaller scale), the soldiers cannot be required to use these weapons (and I'm sure they are not given a choice).

Of course, the owners of this company probably don't see it that way. I bet they really do believe that putting crosses and Bible quotes on all military uniforms would be good, and that putting symbols of other religions on American military uniforms would be bad. It's kind of ironic to me that the people who profess to be the biggest patriots are the very people who misunderstand the very ideas that make this country unique!!!

They either need to stop putting these hidden messages on their products or the US military has to stop buying them.

Reynaldo
Mar 27 2010
Re: secret religious codes on weapons

Did you know that the military has a universal policy against proselytizing?

n-atheist
Mar 27 2010
Re: secret religious codes on weapons

Did you know that the military has a universal policy against proselytizing?

Yes, but do they really follow this policy? From what I've heard, Evangelical Christians have a foothold in the structure of the military and violate this policy regularly.

I must admit, I've never been in the military and have no firsthand experience with it. So, perhaps I've just heard rumors. But, if so, I've heard a lot of rumors (some of them from major news organizations).

Reynaldo
Mar 28 2010
Re: secret religious codes on weapons

I accept that proselytizing is done on a regular basis in the military; I have never been in such either.

SIGN ON CHURCH PARKING LOT: NO TRESPASSING: VIOLATORS WILL BE PROSELYTIZED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT

AtheistNavyVet
Mar 29 2010
Re: secret religious codes on weapons

it is not such a secret that bible verses are short hand: "JN3:16" but you can be sure that these fanatic xian corporations who violate the law won't engrave: "HO13:16" as Hosea Chapter 13 verse 16 clearly calls for all Samarian women to be subjected to violent abortions: "rip open the bellies of pregnant women." IF ONLY all Atheists were out there quoting back this obscene genocidal book back to the believers who are obviously illiterate and do not read this pornographic book as we Atheists are doing increasingly. ....

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