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reasonwithme
Apr 29 2007
Chuck Norris Bashes Secularists

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55333

"I believe those who wield the baton of the secular progressive agenda bear significant responsibility for the escalation of school shootings. Even conservatives who refuse to speak when evil flourishes must acknowledge some culpability.

We teach our children they are nothing more than glorified apes, yet we don't expect them to act like monkeys. We place our value in things, yet expect our children to value people. We disrespect one another, but expect our children to respect others. We terminate children in the womb, but are surprised when children outside the womb terminate other children. We push God to the side, but expect our children to be godly. We've abandoned moral absolutes, yet expect our children to obey the universal commandment, ''Thou shalt not murder.''

Though I respect the Buddhist, Muslim and Jew who shared at the VTU convocation, our country needs to return and call out to the God of our founders, Jesus Christ. As Reverend Schenck concludes:

'When kids kill kids, there's something desperately wrong in the culture. No amount of laws, police officers, courts or prisons can stop a murder from happening. Only a conscience built on the fear of God can do that. Whether it's teaching the sanctity of life or God's commandment against murder, Christian leaders must tell young people that accountability for doing wrong doesn't stop with death. We will ultimately face God as a righteous judge. People who contemplate committing this kind of act need to know that.'

If we are ever to restore civility in our land and our schools, we must turn back the clocks to a time when such shocking crimes didn't even exist when we valued life and respected one another much more then we do today. We must use the Bible (humanity's blueprint for life and ''bluebook'' for value) to retrain our youth about theirs and others' value as children of God, made in His image. We must each contribute to rebuild the infrastructure of our homes, schools, and society upon respect. Instilling strong moral character is at the heart of why I started Kickstart in schools across Texas and hope eventually to fill the schools across this land."[/url:aaaaaaaa]

Chemrobb
May 3 2007
Chuck

Wow, thanks for posting this, Reasonwithme....

Funny, but I never would have thought Chuck could be so anti-violence! (I'm being sarcastic of course:) )....

I mean, let's face it - he's made his living on the media violence scene, albeit as a early contributor, when the hero was more clear cut and the good guy/bad guy thing was obvious. But violence in the media has always racheted up, and he certainly holds a step on that ladder. Media violence was almost certainly a factor - exact influence unknown; a little or a lot - of the terrible case of Cho. (Wonder if martial arts influenced this Korean kid?)

Part of the article:

"If we are ever to restore civility in our land and our schools, we must turn back the clocks to a time when such shocking crimes didn't even exist when we valued life and respected one another much more then we do today. We must use the Bible (humanity's blueprint for life and ''bluebook'' for value) to retrain our youth about theirs and others' value as children of God, made in His image. We must each contribute to rebuild the infrastructure of our homes, schools, and society upon respect. Instilling strong moral character is at the heart of why I started Kickstart in schools across Texas and hope eventually to fill the schools across this land."

"Turn back the clock to...when such shoking time didn't exist" is a fool's errand. America, for better or worse, has ALWAYS been a violent place. Sad but true. It just took a lot longer to reload 150 yrs ago.

And that 'blueprint' is the same one used for so much oppression, right here in the USA...

Notice his blurb about Kickstart. I know nothing about this, but I'll go out on a limb and make note that he "advertises" it in this writeup.

****

I always kinda liked Chuck. Never watched "Walker: Texas Ranger". But I thought of Chuck as an American (sort of a cowboy type) hero that embraced an Eastern influence open-mindedly. i.e. the martial arts angle.

Maybe he's come back to his roots? I dunno - just speculating. It happens...Or maybe he's just posturing for the exposure - lots of others are too.

All told, its a sad article to anyone who believes religion - or lack of religion - is the explanation of the mystery of this kid Cho.

-- RF

mccorquodale
May 4 2007

"Turn back the clock to...when such shoking time didn't exist" is a fool's errand. America, for better or worse, has ALWAYS been a violent place. Sad but true. It just took a lot longer to reload 150 yrs ago.

Yes, I have to agree.

I read recently that there was a school terrorism event in the US that was even worse than the recent Virginia Tech shooting. Some guy apparently blew up a school using dynamite in the 1920's and killed more than 35 people. (I forget the exact details and can't find the reference now.)

The article I read it in was using to show that there is no need for gun control. The author does have a point: it certainly is possible to kill lots of people even without automatic weapons. But, I really think that the guy from Virginia Tech would not have been happy just blowing people up from afar. There was something about going room to room killing people that appealed to his sick mind. (I think gun laws against automatic weapons might have actually stopped him...if anyone bothered to enforce them, of course.)

But, the point is that this sort of mass killing is not new to America, or to humanity. You'd have to be pretty ignorant of history to think that the violence in America today is worse than at other times or caused by lack of religion.

Chemrobb
May 6 2007
School event

Yeah, I recall that 1920s school event also...must have read the same thing you did. Seems like it was Wisconsin or Illinois...??? Dimly remembered, I think it was a fired school employee...or maybe a parent?

You make a good point about the bombs. Cho's religion, or lack if thats the case, probably had nothing to do with his mental state. This person was twisted...and/or extremely sick. Lets face it, there are bad people out there both religious and non. Norris was just way off base...

(Far as gun control, ever notice bombing is far more prevalent in Europe? Wonder if thats just coincidence. )

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